Comments on: Vivisection: How necessary is it? http://www.perfectargument.com/2009/05/vivisection-how-necessary-is-it/ The opinion battle has begun... Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:34:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: KnittyGrittyNatch http://www.perfectargument.com/2009/05/vivisection-how-necessary-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-7701 KnittyGrittyNatch Sun, 31 May 2009 13:37:24 +0000 #comment-7701 Thanks for your input. (: Thanks for your input. (:

]]> By: TaylorX04 http://www.perfectargument.com/2009/05/vivisection-how-necessary-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-7702 TaylorX04 Sun, 31 May 2009 13:37:24 +0000 #comment-7702 I think Descartes actually assumed animals were automata because of his religious views. He didn't believe they have souls, as far as I know. I definitely agree that when there are good alternatives, animals should certainly not be used in testing. I can't say I've done much research into the subject though, but your video has raised my curiosity. Thanks. :-) I think Descartes actually assumed animals were automata because of his religious views. He didn’t believe they have souls, as far as I know.

I definitely agree that when there are good alternatives, animals should certainly not be used in testing. I can’t say I’ve done much research into the subject though, but your video has raised my curiosity. Thanks. :-)

]]> By: KnittyGrittyNatch http://www.perfectargument.com/2009/05/vivisection-how-necessary-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-7703 KnittyGrittyNatch Sun, 31 May 2009 13:37:24 +0000 #comment-7703 I should also mention that animal testing has not been working for cancer and AIDs research and yet we insist on relying on it. Is this not also 'bringing science to a halt'? I should also mention that animal testing has not been working for cancer and AIDs research and yet we insist on relying on it. Is this not also ‘bringing science to a halt’?

]]> By: KnittyGrittyNatch http://www.perfectargument.com/2009/05/vivisection-how-necessary-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-7704 KnittyGrittyNatch Sun, 31 May 2009 13:37:24 +0000 #comment-7704 [cont'd] I will not excuse it, however, one may say they did not have an alternative or they did not realize the depth of their actions. Rene Descartes even suggested that animals were machines. This may be because he thought that only humans had a pineal glands, or that animals did not have minds at all and therefore could not suffer. [cont'd]
I will not excuse it, however, one may say they did not have an alternative or they did not realize the depth of their actions. Rene Descartes even suggested that animals were machines. This may be because he thought that only humans had a pineal glands, or that animals did not have minds at all and therefore could not suffer.

]]> By: KnittyGrittyNatch http://www.perfectargument.com/2009/05/vivisection-how-necessary-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-7705 KnittyGrittyNatch Sun, 31 May 2009 13:37:24 +0000 #comment-7705 This video is suggesting that because we have alternatives now, we do not need to experiment on animals. It is also a response to everyone who has said to me 'Scientific research would come to a screeching halt if we stopped testing on animals.' In my opinion, if it is wrong now, I cannot give an exception to times before. [cont'd] This video is suggesting that because we have alternatives now, we do not need to experiment on animals. It is also a response to everyone who has said to me ‘Scientific research would come to a screeching halt if we stopped testing on animals.’
In my opinion, if it is wrong now, I cannot give an exception to times before. [cont'd]

]]> By: TaylorX04 http://www.perfectargument.com/2009/05/vivisection-how-necessary-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-7706 TaylorX04 Sun, 31 May 2009 13:37:24 +0000 #comment-7706 Interesting, but a lot of this seems to argue for phasing out animal testing, not that it has always been wrong or unnecessary. Insulin, polio vaccines, rabies vaccines, and lots of other medical treatments were discovered through animal testing, and we didn't have the technology/knowledge for computer models or tissue cultures back then. Was it still wrong to use animals in testing during that time, in your opinion? Interesting, but a lot of this seems to argue for phasing out animal testing, not that it has always been wrong or unnecessary. Insulin, polio vaccines, rabies vaccines, and lots of other medical treatments were discovered through animal testing, and we didn’t have the technology/knowledge for computer models or tissue cultures back then. Was it still wrong to use animals in testing during that time, in your opinion?

]]> By: oneandonlyhypnos http://www.perfectargument.com/2009/05/vivisection-how-necessary-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-7707 oneandonlyhypnos Sun, 31 May 2009 13:37:24 +0000 #comment-7707 I know... I know…

]]> By: KnittyGrittyNatch http://www.perfectargument.com/2009/05/vivisection-how-necessary-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-7708 KnittyGrittyNatch Sun, 31 May 2009 13:37:24 +0000 #comment-7708 Yes, I was vote botted a while back. But thank you for the compliment. (: Yes, I was vote botted a while back. But thank you for the compliment. (:

]]> By: oneandonlyhypnos http://www.perfectargument.com/2009/05/vivisection-how-necessary-is-it/comment-page-1/#comment-7709 oneandonlyhypnos Sun, 31 May 2009 13:37:24 +0000 #comment-7709 Nice video...I would give you five stars, but ratings are disabled :p Nice video…I would give you five stars, but ratings are disabled :p

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